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so

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greetings and salutations friends

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and welcome back uh i am

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here at the apocalypse cabin

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and it's kind of a dark and stormy night

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so uh

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how appropriate that for tonight uh we

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are going to begin our journey on the

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dark side

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now we first talked about uh the strange

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phenomenon of shadow people uh

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some time ago and i am fascinated

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with how this phenomenon crosses

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cultural religious and

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boundaries people all over the world

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have seen these entities uh

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which makes the story more fascinating

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to me

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this isn't an american phenomenon or a

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european phenomenon or an african

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phenomenon it is a

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worldwide phenomenon

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so yeah

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and uh really an interesting

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phenomenon that i wanted to explore more

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fully so i asked in my audience if

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anyone had

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had experiences with these mysterious

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shadow people and uh interestingly

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enough several

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people have so i've invited them on the

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show tonight

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where we are going to begin our journey

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greetings and salutations friends

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and welcome back to truth seekers

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tonight we are going on the dark side

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so uh we have uh two of our guests here

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uh and i'm gonna bring them in one

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one moment friends please bear with me

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here

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as i uh worked this

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machinery to make this thing work

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uh first we have jonas eyed that's me

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how are you doing jonasai doing good

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apparently

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you had some creepy experiences with

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these shadow people

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and we've also got bg's here another

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show hi boogies good to see you

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so who wants to go first with their

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story of the mysterious shadow people

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genocide has sort of touched on this on

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a previous panel show

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yeah so uh big go first i don't mind

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or i can hand it over to remove she's

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here ladies first

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yeah did you want me to send a separate

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invitation to renee or

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um i think we'll just share the phone

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okay that'll make it easier

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good well ladies first we just wanted

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well can you tell us about your

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experience i was thinking i've been

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thinking about this all week and

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i was trying to think when was the first

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time that i really had

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some type of at an encounter with like a

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shadow thing and you know people talk

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like having paralysis and stuff like

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that but for me i think

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something similar to what renee had said

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last week was that she was walking and

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had an incident well i was i reckon i

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was about

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five years old and um

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thing with like a little like elf

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looking thing which was all black

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and uh it sat with me for as long as i

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could remember because it was like a

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a weird interaction like i was

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talking to the thing and i can't

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times i remember having like a weird

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interaction so i've always had like

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weird things happening to me in my life

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very attuned to i've had stuff move in

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my house and you know all weird

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kind of things but i

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you know when i got older i always had

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to sleep with my bedroom door

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shut because i would always see

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like the typical trench coat type with

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the trilby kind of hat

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like hat man i guess like constantly

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like from i don't know that's not creepy

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and your whole life you've seen these

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things yeah my whole life

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i used to like shut the door just a

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little bit and

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my partner would be like just leave it

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open i was like i don't know i just want

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to have it shut just a little bit and

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you know he kind of never believed in

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any of that

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kind of stuff so but it was almost like

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he was still looking at me and i'm just

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like i think that the dark can play

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tricks on your mind because i don't know

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that i've ever seen anything that i

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thought was an entity but my wife is

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crazy and has blackout curtains and the

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whole room has to be like

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black yeah for her to sleep and trying

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to sleep in there like

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you know you just wake up and you like

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lose all sense of depth perception like

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you don't know how far away the wall is

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or the you know

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yeah because it's that jack yeah she

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i carve in pyra god forbid there'd be

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any light in the room she can't sleep

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and i you know i guess that's her deal

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though so well

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i i find nowadays like i have to i have

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um himalayan salt lamps on um so they're

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like my nightlight

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so i have one oh yeah they sort of glow

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in the night yeah those are cool

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one in my hallway because um

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there was a really it got intensified my

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mom passed away in 2015

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and the dark was just

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not acceptable for me like i just i was

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worried about i just couldn't walk down

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the hallway to go to my bathroom like

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it was just it was just something i just

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couldn't deal with and

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um so what i've focused on more so

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getting older is that i i need like um

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i have to play like podcasts at night

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and listening to something crit

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all night to actually not help me focus

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on what's happening

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like at the door because i don't i try

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not to look at the door

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um yeah but it's it's just a weird thing

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that's happened with me

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my whole life like i um and i need the

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light on so i'm not focusing on that

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like so i can't see a shadow as such if

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that makes sense

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so what what what is your latest

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experience been like

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and have you gotten a sense of like what

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these things want or what their

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intentions are or if they're

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evil or benevolent or indifferent

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it doesn't feel good it just doesn't

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feel good it feels ominous

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like it just feels like there's

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something

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dark watching over you and what it is i

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don't know

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like so i've um you know my partner

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passed away

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two and a half years ago and um yeah

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listen i i heard you

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i heard you tweet about that and i just

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wanted to offer you my condolences and

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tell you that

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if you need anybody to talk to i had a

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friend of mine who's uh

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best well really was my best friend and

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his wife

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passed away very suddenly and i know

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like how

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that can just be a terrible burden to

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bear by yourself

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so yeah feel free you know if you need

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to talk or

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somebody listen we're we're here for you

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i'm so sorry for your loss i can't

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imagine

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i'm i would be a complete and total mess

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without my wife

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right nothing would get done the house

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would look like a frat party the kids

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would be naked and dirty and hungry

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i bet you right

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you know my wife wanted me to do this

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stay at home thing and i tried my best

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but i'm a man

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and i don't think men are made for this

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daddy daycare stuff

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you know yeah i'm doing my best it's

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weird like

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um i think like with my partner not

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being here

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you don't have that security like

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because if i would see

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the person because it's an entity and

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it's a male entity it's not female

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like it's definitely yeah and i was

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going to ask too did you get the sense

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do you get the sense that it's the same

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entity over and over again or different

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ones it's the same one yeah yeah

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definitely

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and it makes me think oh my god what

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have i done in a past life if this guy's

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because it's been since i was young like

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i like as a kid i used to have my

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bedroom door

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shut and i would still feel like he was

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outside the door

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like it was a horrible horrible

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like sensation so you just wouldn't get

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up and do anything until the light came

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like it was morning so and some people

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that experienced these entities have

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talked about having nightmares about

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them as well have you had nightmares

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about this

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this these experiences or is this always

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conscious experience it's a conscious

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experience now that i'm older but

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definitely when i was younger

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i used to yeah there used to be weird

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sort of dreams and things about it

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um and it's it's just an odd thing like

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i can't

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explain it i know that i'm not imagining

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it

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you know i'm not uh i'm a i'm not

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mentally ill you know like i

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i'm i definitely seem pretty lucid and

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i see the um you know i see the outline

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i see that

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but for me it's not the just the shadow

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person is the shadow person with a hat

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for some reason for me

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yeah and this is commonly called the hat

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man right yeah

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yeah and and like there are times where

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you do

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you it's almost like you try not to move

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so you think that they think you're

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asleep

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like but you're totally awake and you're

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just like oh my god oh my god oh my god

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it's back it's not all the time

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but um yeah like since my partner's been

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gone

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that's where my whole nightlight things

286
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come into it where i've kept my

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himalayan salt lamps

288
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on um and i have to leave my door open

289
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because i've got a dog and he sleeps

290
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inside with me

291
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like so he'll go in and out and do his

292
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thing and

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um but yeah like i i don't fancy the

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dark

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and it's a really odd thing being 43 and

296
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being

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sort of afraid of the dark so but that's

298
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me that's that yeah

299
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yeah you know i i don't blame you though

300
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everybody's got their quirks like i'm

301
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not afraid of the dark but i'm afraid of

302
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silence

303
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separate rooms we have separate bedrooms

304
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because i just

305
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i have to have talk radio or i have to

306
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have something on i guess i'm afraid to

307
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get lost in

308
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my own thoughts yeah and if i just have

309
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something to focus on

310
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yeah i don't yeah i'm like that myself

311
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but i

312
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i wonder if that's just as a result of

313
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me trying to not focus

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on that entity that's there

315
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i mean like i i've like gone out there

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and i've

317
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house gone to every corner yeah i was

318
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gonna ask you

319
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yeah i was going to ask you because i

320
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grew up catholic and

321
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in in the catholic what a catholic would

322
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do is call a priest in

323
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to bless the house and try to get rid of

324
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it have you considered doing anything

325
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like that or have you tried to do

326
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anything to

327
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um sort of exercise it from your

328
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surroundings

329
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i'm not a religious person but i i would

330
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consider myself to be

331
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uh intuitive as far as i feel things so

332
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like i said i've had stuff move in my

333
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house and

334
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i've had like cds fly off of counter at

335
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me

336
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i've had manifestations of

337
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smoke um like appear in front of me

338
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and when i've been thinking about you

339
00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:48,480
know someone that's just passed away

340
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and um like i've come home and

341
00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:54,160
like i'm pretty sure my other half's

342
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turned my paintings upside down on the

343
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walls and it's like physically

344
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impossible

345
00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:01,759
yeah yeah i've had some weird stuff so

346
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like you know people might think that's

347
00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:05,120
crazy but i can only speak

348
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to my experience um you know

349
00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:12,000
and uh yeah so that's why i have smudged

350
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the house a couple of times and

351
00:16:17,189 --> 00:16:16,240
uh yeah i hear sage helps i don't know

352
00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:17,199
if it does

353
00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:20,000
yeah well it's the intent as well and

354
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you go in

355
00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:24,160
like uh just asking and

356
00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:26,480
um saying you know what you'd like and

357
00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:27,519
please you know

358
00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:29,920
i'd like you to leave and that type of

359
00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:31,120
thing but

360
00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:33,920
um for me the only thing that seems to

361
00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:35,600
help is just to not have

362
00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:38,959
a shadow a creation of having the

363
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darkness

364
00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:43,360
that sense the light helps i guess so

365
00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:46,959
um yeah yeah yeah yeah and

366
00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:50,160
genocide has had similar but and but

367
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unique and different experiences what

368
00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:53,680
was it with you jonah said you had a

369
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house that you believe that was somewhat

370
00:16:59,990 --> 00:16:57,360
haunted or something like that

371
00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:00,000
right but the shadow people um i had a

372
00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:02,560
house i lived in that was three stories

373
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and i still remember like you'd always

374
00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:05,919
whenever we were watching tv we'd see

375
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someone come down the stairs or someone

376
00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:09,199
ran up the stairs

377
00:17:13,029 --> 00:17:11,679
and it was a shadow and i would be with

378
00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:13,039
my roommates that we'd all see it

379
00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:15,039
there'd be three or four of us

380
00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:17,360
and we'd see these things happen over

381
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and over again

382
00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:21,760
i never got a feeling of dread from them

383
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um

384
00:17:27,189 --> 00:17:25,360
i have had the the night hag the

385
00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:27,199
sleep paralysis where something feels

386
00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,280
like it's straightening your energy

387
00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:31,120
and one of the things i could suggest

388
00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:33,120
you to do bgs if you ever

389
00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:35,760
encounter this again and it sounds weird

390
00:17:40,470 --> 00:17:36,240
but

391
00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:43,190
because what my understanding is and i'm

392
00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:44,160
not an expert

393
00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:47,200
is they feed off fear they feed off

394
00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:50,240
the all the negative emotions and if you

395
00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:51,600
see it and laugh

396
00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:53,200
and you say you're not religious and

397
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,760
that's fine but you can also get a

398
00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:57,520
talisman of anything that you want to

399
00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:58,880
use as a talisman

400
00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:00,559
doesn't matter what it is it could be

401
00:18:04,470 --> 00:18:02,799
anything from it could be a cross

402
00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:04,480
it could be a pentagram it could be

403
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:06,160
anything you want to use

404
00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:07,679
and keep that near you and if you get

405
00:18:11,830 --> 00:18:09,520
scared grab that

406
00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:11,840
and then remember to laugh because when

407
00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:13,520
you laugh at these things

408
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:16,640
they lose their power over you yeah and

409
00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:17,760
it's like i said like

410
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:21,120
it's been since as long as i can like

411
00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:23,760
you know my earliest childhood memories

412
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:24,400
you know five

413
00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:28,000
to six and and i remember like my dad i

414
00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:29,840
was down out the back and it happened

415
00:18:32,630 --> 00:18:30,799
outside and

416
00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:32,640
my dad was like what are you doing and i

417
00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:34,559
was like and then the thing disappeared

418
00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:36,799
and i was like i must i felt like i must

419
00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:39,520
have been intuitively talking to this

420
00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:40,320
thing

421
00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:43,039
and i don't remember what it was saying

422
00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:45,120
but i was engrossed with it like i was

423
00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:45,760
just like

424
00:18:50,230 --> 00:18:48,960
i was totally engaged like totally

425
00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:50,240
and my dad's like what are you what are

426
00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:53,360
you doing brooke and and i was just like

427
00:18:57,669 --> 00:18:55,280
come get inside and i was like and i

428
00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:57,679
went inside and i was just like

429
00:19:01,110 --> 00:18:59,840
it's always stuck with me that one i

430
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:01,120
don't forget

431
00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:03,120
like that was like my first real

432
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:04,480
experience but

433
00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:06,240
it's funny like my whole family's had

434
00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:08,080
some weird things happen to them like

435
00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:09,280
when my

436
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:12,400
nana died i was about seven and um

437
00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:14,640
you know we were all sitting around a

438
00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:15,520
table and

439
00:19:18,870 --> 00:19:17,520
like we were eating dinner after the

440
00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:18,880
funeral and

441
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:22,160
um you know my grandpa's fork

442
00:19:28,789 --> 00:19:25,360
just bent half over like it just bent

443
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:28,799
and it was just like oh my god like

444
00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:31,919
it weird things like that like clocks

445
00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:33,919
started chiming that hadn't worked for

446
00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:35,200
30 years just

447
00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:37,200
and we couldn't they had to like bust it

448
00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:38,240
to stop it from

449
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:41,760
chiming like it's jesus it's some really

450
00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:42,400
weird

451
00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:43,600
life so i don't know if it's like

452
00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:46,799
related to the family in some sense or

453
00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:48,400
there's some

454
00:19:51,830 --> 00:19:51,039
something there but like you know i

455
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:51,840
think

456
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,520
yeah there's some weird stuff going on

457
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:55,280
that's for sure

458
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:57,520
and i was going to ask both of you this

459
00:20:01,110 --> 00:19:59,280
did did either of you attempt to

460
00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:01,120
communicate with this thing

461
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:03,280
and if so you know what was that like

462
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:11,750
when you ask it like what are you doing

463
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:13,360
here what do you want

464
00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:17,120
right i would like bro

465
00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:20,159
i never thought to communicate i just i

466
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:22,159
got the feeling they were just traveling

467
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:24,960
through the house going somewhere coming

468
00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:27,360
from someone we were by a cemetery

469
00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:28,880
you know i just thought it was just

470
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:30,799
maybe a vortex or something i just never

471
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:32,400
got a negative

472
00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:35,200
feeling um another house i lived out on

473
00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:37,360
the same street but further down

474
00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:39,600
i had the sleep paralysis and what

475
00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:41,679
people call the night hack experience

476
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,159
where i wake up and i can't move and i

477
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:46,320
feel something on my chest

478
00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:49,600
um i couldn't i wasn't able to

479
00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:50,960
i didn't think to communicate i was

480
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,960
scared the first time it happened

481
00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:54,799
mad the second and i got rid of the

482
00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:56,960
third time i got rid of it

483
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,559
and uh i just uh i thought to myself

484
00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:02,400
how can i get rid of this thing and i

485
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:04,480
was praying on it and then my

486
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:05,760
the answer came to me in my mind i

487
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:07,760
started thinking about just imagine a

488
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:10,080
sword and place that next to you

489
00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:12,880
like in the astral plane or something so

490
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,320
the third night and it was

491
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:16,400
in a row it came at me and it was early

492
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:17,840
in the morning i can't move

493
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:20,400
i'm asleep or i was just waking up from

494
00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:21,360
being asleep

495
00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:24,240
and i feel this pressure on my chest and

496
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,960
i was always

497
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:26,480
after this happened i'd always be really

498
00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:28,159
tired i just thought my head

499
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:30,159
wait i pushed a sword right there and i

500
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:32,159
in my head in my mind i picked himself

501
00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:33,280
grabbing a sword

502
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:35,760
and slashing through it and when i did

503
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:38,480
that it disappeared it never came back

504
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,559
the funny thing is the next day that

505
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:42,480
morning i was talking to my roommate

506
00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:44,640
and i asked him hey have you ever had

507
00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:46,159
sleep paralysis

508
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:48,320
and he goes yeah i've been having a lot

509
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:49,840
lately well i think i got

510
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:52,720
rid of it it's gone he's like oh okay

511
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:53,919
the next day he's like yeah i haven't

512
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:56,000
had it and then you know a couple weeks

513
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:57,280
later he's like yeah i've had since you

514
00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:58,559
said that i'm like well hopefully i got

515
00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:59,919
rid of it

516
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:01,840
yeah but remember is that you know like

517
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:02,960
i was thinking there's something you're

518
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:03,840
scared of

519
00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:08,640
laugh at it yeah i'll try that

520
00:22:14,549 --> 00:22:12,240
wow and here we have uh

521
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:14,559
i i i can't even tell you how many

522
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:15,520
questions i have

523
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:18,480
because i i don't i just the whole thing

524
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:18,880
is

525
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,799
same time

526
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:24,799
like the other thing i wanted to ask

527
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:26,159
both of you is if

528
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:28,000
you try to track when you have these

529
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,400
experiences and can you nail down like

530
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:32,320
it happens

531
00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:35,520
on this dates or this lunar cycle or you

532
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:36,400
know me i would

533
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:38,559
probably get nerdy and try to figure it

534
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:40,000
out more or

535
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:42,400
try to figure out when it would be

536
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:44,080
appearing right

537
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:47,280
um i need to check the lunar cycles with

538
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,799
the nighthawk i couldn't even tell you

539
00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:50,400
when that happened that it'd have to be

540
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:52,720
in spring when i moved in that house

541
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,840
with the shadow people the one house i

542
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,760
you know it just it always seemed to

543
00:23:02,870 --> 00:22:59,039
happen at night

544
00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:02,880
um but not late like around 10

545
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:05,600
but and everybody saw him and we saw him

546
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:06,880
you know on the stairs

547
00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:09,520
and it was just the weirdest thing and i

548
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:10,159
never

549
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:20,710
i've ever thought about like the lunar

550
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:22,000
cycles or the

551
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:23,919
dates or anything because it happened

552
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:25,919
that regularly like at times it would

553
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:27,919
happen every night like

554
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:31,760
um nowadays like

555
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:35,919
sort of two years i was i i've really

556
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:37,360
made the conscious effort

557
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,400
to have the lights on and have like a

558
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,640
podcast going or like a you know

559
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:44,400
talkback or whatever

560
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:47,200
um just so i don't even focus on it like

561
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,000
just try to completely ignore it

562
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,120
yeah and does that help to just ignore

563
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:58,870
because i i'm trying to like um

564
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:01,520
it's it's not even that i'm i'm not

565
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:02,720
scared of it

566
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,760
anymore like i used to be in my like 20s

567
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:07,919
and 30s like definitely

568
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:10,320
used to freak the hell out of me but i

569
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:11,840
think as you get older

570
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:14,960
you learn to manage things better and

571
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:17,600
um just like you know like i said i've

572
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,000
smudged

573
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,640
my house so many times and my other half

574
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:22,320
would be like what the [\h__\h] smells in

575
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:23,360
here and i'm just like

576
00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:26,400
nothing you know like and it stank but

577
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:28,640
like it's like i've had to i just feel

578
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:31,039
like i have to cleanse the house like

579
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:33,200
um but i don't think it's the house i

580
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:34,320
think it's me

581
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:36,640
like i think it follows me so i think

582
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:38,960
it's got something to do with

583
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:42,080
you know there's your next maybe

584
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,840
something else so you're trying to get

585
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:45,520
in the other way renee is

586
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:47,919
genocide's wife comes to join us and

587
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:49,200
could you tell us

588
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:57,430
uh you're going to want a very large

589
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:59,600
path of what shadow people are the

590
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:00,559
shadow people

591
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:02,799
that the last time i had any real

592
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:04,000
incidents

593
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:06,960
was when i lived in california i live in

594
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:08,320
riverside

595
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:26,390
well your audio is garbled and breaking

596
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:29,760
up there renee

597
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:31,760
okay what am i doing wrong i don't know

598
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:32,880
just keep your finger

599
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:36,320
up can you hear me now yeah that's much

600
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:38,080
better can you hear me now

601
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:41,200
okay my finger must be on the mic okay

602
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:51,190
oh and we lost all right let's try again

603
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:54,559
there we go okay you're back you bounced

604
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:01,190
should be okay i'm not sure

605
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:04,640
okay so as i said

606
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:06,000
we heard something we turn around and

607
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:08,320
there's these black figures i mean

608
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:12,960
maybe half a dozen are walking behind us

609
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:17,039
and we're like crap can he not hear me

610
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:18,880
i don't know no i can hear you we can

611
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:21,279
hear you yeah

612
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:25,679
so you see five of them behind you and

613
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:29,279
yeah and so we

614
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,880
walked in mill street because the light

615
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:32,400
it was straight with lit

616
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,559
but we could see it try to reach into

617
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:36,240
the light like a vapor

618
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:39,200
and then pull back and it was the

619
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:40,880
creepiest thing

620
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:44,400
um also

621
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:46,240
if you guys are talking about uh weird

622
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:47,840
things that following you

623
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:51,520
bg's i've had a guardian

624
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:54,159
since i was a little probably a baby my

625
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:54,640
daughter

626
00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:58,080
figure

627
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:02,400
very large man standing right behind us

628
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:10,310
because i had to teach my daughter that

629
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:12,480
when she was probably five or six

630
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:13,760
because she's like mom someone's

631
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:16,880
watching me someone's touching my back

632
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:19,440
i'm like it's casey it's actually i've

633
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:20,000
done a

634
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,200
lot of lucid and meditation stuff it's

635
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:25,200
actually a family member that

636
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:29,039
ancestral that has followed my life

637
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,720
and my sisters don't believe in that

638
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,480
stuff but they tell me about

639
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,720
incidents they're like like that's him

640
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:36,640
no it's not i don't believe in that crap

641
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:39,679
okay that's fine with you but yeah

642
00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:43,200
he my sister saw him she saw

643
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,919
just a very red uh blob kind of thing

644
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,039
behind her

645
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:50,159
in a reflection in a mirror that's him

646
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:53,520
he's a big irish guy and i mean he's

647
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:56,799
like the long fuzzy hair red beard and

648
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:59,440
she's like no it can't be that stuff

649
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:00,159
because

650
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:03,440
i'm a christian a witch and uh my

651
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:04,159
sisters

652
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:06,720
are christian and then the other one is

653
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:07,360
atheist

654
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,399
or whatever she can be to make everybody

655
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:12,480
angry

656
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:25,669
i'm not religious but i don't practice

657
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:27,679
religion in any sense so

658
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:39,110
the other thing i was going to ask is

659
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:40,559
did anybody think of

660
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,480
doing any kind of like getting those

661
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,640
ghost hunters with their magnetometers

662
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,399
and their scientific instruments to try

663
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:48,720
to measure these things or

664
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:52,080
to try to uh i don't know get gather

665
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,960
more data

666
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:54,640
when you have one of these experiences

667
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:56,399
like i

668
00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:58,720
i i would say if i was having these i'd

669
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,679
want to get like

670
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:01,520
one of those night vision cameras and

671
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:03,039
see if i could capture anything

672
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:06,399
while this thing was in the room or uh i

673
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:06,799
don't know

674
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:09,840
log temperatures and and uh

675
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,520
whatever other scientific stuff you know

676
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:15,600
yeah i've thought about like setting up

677
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:17,200
a camera just to see

678
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,039
like if we it could be captured like um

679
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:23,760
but then you one wonder are they that

680
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:24,960
aware of like

681
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:26,399
you know what you're trying to do in

682
00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:28,159
your intent and

683
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:31,039
you know that kind of thing but i've

684
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:31,520
like

685
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:34,720
you know i i would say that i

686
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:37,279
don't like you know even temperature

687
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:39,919
changes and things like that i don't

688
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:42,640
remember noticing anything like that

689
00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:45,679
it's just like an ominous kind of

690
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:48,159
feeling and you just know that he's

691
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:48,799
watching

692
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:52,399
like it's a weird feeling

693
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:01,110
yeah anyone in it's probably a good idea

694
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:02,799
yeah and what about you renee did you

695
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:05,039
ever have any any of these ghost hunter

696
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,679
kind of people or somebody to try to uh

697
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:09,440
gather more information about these

698
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,430
not like a seance but a group of us

699
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,279
me and my friends were hanging out one

700
00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:21,600
night and we

701
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,559
had this thing and we could tell it was

702
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:26,559
in the room with us

703
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:29,520
and as john said laugh at it but i did

704
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:30,320
something worse

705
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:33,520
i taunted the [\h__\h]

706
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:36,559
oh god we're all together and my friends

707
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:36,960
are like

708
00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:43,510
oh that's the third-rate plaid chicken

709
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:45,039
demon that keeps following me around the

710
00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:45,760
goddamn

711
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:49,120
place and my friends just bust up

712
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:50,240
laughing and i'm like

713
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:51,520
i don't look at as serious i said

714
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:54,720
because whatever it is it stays

715
00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:59,039
in there it tries to get my attention

716
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:01,600
and my friends are like what evil it is

717
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:32,310
yeah i keep hearing her cutting in and

718
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:35,440
now too i don't know what that's about

719
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:37,679
yeah and then it is interesting in in

720
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,159
islam shadow people are the jinn

721
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:42,320
and it's mentioned in the quran several

722
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:44,480
times those who dwell in the shadows

723
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:47,600
but they're generally you know

724
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:49,440
they're not human they're not god

725
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:51,279
they're somewhere in between

726
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:52,880
which is interesting that and then the

727
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,039
bible also mentions

728
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:57,760
shadow people or those that dwell in the

729
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:59,039
shadows as well

730
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,200
but most catholics would say that that's

731
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:02,960
a reference to demons

732
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:06,000
or dark spirits unclean spirits

733
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:07,919
did you guys get a sense that this thing

734
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:15,990
um with me a couple times yeah

735
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:20,240
um but not always i mean like the one

736
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:21,600
that follows me around the house the

737
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:23,440
ghost at my mom's house

738
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,909
yeah i wouldn't say mine's like a ghost

739
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:31,360
mine mine gives

740
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:35,200
a a sense of you have a sense of fear

741
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:38,799
um evil possibly yes

742
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:42,720
but it's really funny because my family

743
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,519
like because i'm part maori and on my

744
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:47,039
dad's side

745
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,640
there's a um an old family

746
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:52,720
thing saying that there's a maori curse

747
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:55,679
on the family because of

748
00:33:02,230 --> 00:32:59,760
an interracial relationship and

749
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:02,240
back in the day and someone put a curse

750
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:03,440
on

751
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:08,960
related to that sometimes because

752
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:11,360
i do have a lot of bad luck i will admit

753
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:12,000
that

754
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:15,519
but i um i yeah i

755
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:18,080
i often wonder if there's a relation

756
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:18,559
like

757
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:25,039
there's something and it's just picked

758
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:26,399
me up as like

759
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:29,200
one of the more sensitive in the family

760
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,000
and

761
00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:32,640
you know like i i don't know it's hard

762
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:33,919
to explain but

763
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:37,679
yeah i often think about it

764
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,679
wow and uh how often do each of you

765
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:43,440
like fiji's how often are you seeing

766
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:44,880
this thing

767
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:47,919
like i said in my 20s and 30s i would

768
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:50,880
pretty much see it every every night

769
00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:51,519
like

770
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:54,640
since my partners passed away and my mum

771
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:57,360
my mum passed away in 2015 and i had a

772
00:34:03,990 --> 00:33:58,240
real

773
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:04,000
with the dark like the dark just scared

774
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,880
the absolute

775
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:06,559
[\h__\h] out of me because it was almost

776
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:09,839
like someone was going to jump out like

777
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,879
and it was like waiting to pounce kind

778
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:14,159
of thing so

779
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:17,919
probably since 2015 it's dissipated

780
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:18,399
because

781
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:22,639
i've had to um sleep with like

782
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:25,760
like salt lamps on and um

783
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:29,440
like not have a shadow not create

784
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:33,440
a space where there is a shadow that can

785
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:34,000
be seen

786
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:35,440
do you know what i mean if that makes

787
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:37,200
sense so it's

788
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:39,679
so is it that easy to get rid of it is

789
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:40,399
to just

790
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:43,040
just use night lights well that's what

791
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:44,079
i've been doing

792
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:46,000
and i'm not obviously not trying to pay

793
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,599
attention to the door

794
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:49,760
like because that's my bigger issue is

795
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:50,800
that if i

796
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:53,760
if i do look at the door the chances are

797
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:54,480
he's there

798
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:02,870
so renee how often have you seen these

799
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:03,280
things

800
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:05,119
has this been just a few times in your

801
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,320
life or like

802
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:08,240
vg's has it been recurrent throughout

803
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:11,520
your life at different situations i mean

804
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:15,839
when i was a child there was

805
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:17,839
that was visiting we're not sure if it

806
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,960
was aliens ghosts or

807
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:22,640
shadow people but it's actually not a

808
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:24,320
saddle people because we actually saw a

809
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:27,200
person it was a woman with red hair

810
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:30,720
dressed in black with men next to her

811
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:33,920
and um actually all three

812
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:36,480
three my sister and so the three of us

813
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:37,760
have all seen it

814
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,760
at different points and it just looks at

815
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:41,040
us

816
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,880
go back to sleep it's okay we're here to

817
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,200
help

818
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,920
and my sister was really sick how are

819
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,599
you supposed to go back to sleep after

820
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,119
seeing that

821
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:53,200
i know but that's the weird thing is but

822
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:54,800
it actually for some reason or another

823
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:56,640
it puts us asleep

824
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:59,040
because we do go back to sleep and we

825
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:00,560
wake up going

826
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:03,839
crap what the hell

827
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:06,960
and um i've talked to my sisters about

828
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:07,680
it

829
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:10,560
recently and they're like yeah and none

830
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,000
of us had talked about it when we were

831
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:14,720
kids or younger and it was like you saw

832
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:15,839
it too

833
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:19,440
and it was all in the same house and

834
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:22,960
i had all of this situation

835
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:26,800
when i was pregnant with my daughter and

836
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:29,440
had a lot of issues and that time i'm

837
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,320
like

838
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:32,720
one of the times it was okay but another

839
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:34,480
time it felt like something was moving

840
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:36,079
me

841
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:39,599
like

842
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:42,960
could hear

843
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:44,800
things moving around me and i couldn't

844
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:48,000
wake up and it scared the [\h__\h] out of me

845
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,119
that's what happened a couple times

846
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:53,680
but a lot of the stuff has mellowed as i

847
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:54,560
got older

848
00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:57,280
and i learned how to deal with it yeah

849
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:59,359
as bj said you said your partner helped

850
00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:00,640
with that

851
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:03,839
me and john been together for ever and i

852
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:06,320
haven't had as much problems

853
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:08,640
because yeah and like you even married

854
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:10,400
him on purpose right

855
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:13,520
yeah i lost him totally on purpose you

856
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,079
weren't like

857
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:16,400
knocked up or something you did that on

858
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:22,069
my god i was my wife hates that i say

859
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,160
this but i always like to joke that in

860
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:26,480
my family i started a new tradition

861
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:28,880
a whole new tradition in my family and

862
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:29,760
that is

863
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:32,160
i married the girl first and then a year

864
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:32,800
later

865
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:36,400
i knocked her up it only goes the other

866
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:36,800
way

867
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:40,960
in my family yeah it's backward in my

868
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:43,760
family that is backwards

869
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:47,280
yep yeah but especially being catholic

870
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:47,680
if you

871
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:50,560
catholic everybody wants you to get

872
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:53,119
married whether that's a good idea or

873
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:57,040
yeah whether that's a good idea or not

874
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,040
you're like i know guys that had one

875
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:00,960
night stands and they were 16

876
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:02,480
and you know knocked some girl up and

877
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:04,320
then their parents made them get married

878
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:05,520
at 16 and

879
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:07,440
of course that none of those marriages

880
00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:13,670
no that doesn't work well um

881
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,839
but as you said you're catholic or

882
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,720
christian well i'm christian now

883
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:20,640
i'm i say i'm a recovering catholic but

884
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,320
i did the whole 12 years of catholic

885
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:24,160
school and you know

886
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:26,960
all boys in high school that was fun all

887
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:33,430
you guys had trouble uh yeah and they

888
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:35,200
try to recruit me to become a priest

889
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,760
they send you like now thinking about

890
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,680
this sounds real scary but they send you

891
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:41,599
for like weekends at the seminary to

892
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:43,359
hang out with the priests

893
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:47,040
right that doesn't sound shady at all

894
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,640
and nothing happened to me but i've

895
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,480
heard some stories yeah but

896
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,800
they were trying to recruit you you know

897
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:54,480
become a priest it's great

898
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:57,119
after four years of all boys catholic

899
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:59,040
school they expect me to take a vow of

900
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:00,400
celibacy

901
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:03,280
so i don't think so it just did not work

902
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:04,480
out for me

903
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:08,160
and i am sorry i'm just reading the

904
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,119
comments and

905
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:11,520
like brad's saying you know i just want

906
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:13,119
someone to give us some proof and that's

907
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:14,640
like that's the issue man

908
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:17,119
like you can't get the proof that's the

909
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,839
hard part

910
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:19,680
yeah this is one of the things about

911
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:20,880
experience prove

912
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:23,680
when i come home and my paintings are

913
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:25,920
turned upside down and they're hooked

914
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,280
they're on hooks

915
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,520
and you can't physically can't they

916
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:31,359
physically cannot turn upside down but

917
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:32,160
they are

918
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:34,160
i haven't been home no one's been in my

919
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,000
house how do i prove that

920
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,920
like how do i prove that i see this

921
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:39,680
person because i physically see this

922
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:41,200
person at my door

923
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:43,920
but i can't ha you know like if i go to

924
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,800
take a photo

925
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,800
it's not going to be that it doesn't you

926
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:48,720
can't capture it it's

927
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:51,040
it's hard to explain if you don't

928
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:53,200
experience it and you're not an

929
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:56,320
experiencer as far as that's concerned i

930
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:57,119
can't give you yeah

931
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,720
it's just to play the devil's advocate

932
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:00,480
and it's it's hard because like

933
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:03,280
i i i'm experienced i'm telling you but

934
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:05,280
like you've got to take it on face value

935
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:05,760
and

936
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:10,880
not trying to sell

937
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:13,119
[\h__\h] to anybody you know what i mean but

938
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:14,960
i'm just telling you this is

939
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:18,240
my experience that's all i can say yeah

940
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:20,720
yeah i was gonna say you know uh some

941
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:21,520
people may

942
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:24,480
wonder if if these things are unable to

943
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:25,599
be photographed or

944
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:28,720
videotaped would would that mean that

945
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:30,720
these experiences are taking place in

946
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:32,560
your own mind and not

947
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:35,839
in the physical presence or world right

948
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:38,400
yeah but like i'm physically awake and

949
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:39,599
i'm physically

950
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:42,640
like lucid i'm i'm not

951
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,040
you know like i consider myself to be a

952
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,280
pretty centered person

953
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:49,599
and uh you know like i said to you like

954
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:51,839
the other things that have happened like

955
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:52,240
yeah

956
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:55,359
i've had cds thrown at me i've had

957
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:57,920
things thrown at my mirrors and

958
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,720
like there's something i don't know i

959
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:02,640
think i don't know if it's an attachment

960
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:03,680
or if it's some

961
00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:06,720
i don't i just don't know but um someone

962
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,119
was

963
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,760
telling me to get some dowsing rods and

964
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,520
see if there's any water running under

965
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:13,200
my house because apparently that's got

966
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:14,560
something to do with it

967
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:17,040
check if there's any dead people you

968
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:18,720
could have dead people under your house

969
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:19,520
causing all this

970
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:21,599
we're on we're on what they call the

971
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,079
ghana land which is an aboriginal

972
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:26,800
like we're on the adelaide plains and um

973
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:27,599
hills here

974
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:31,520
so this is definitely aboriginal land

975
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:32,839
for sure

976
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:36,160
so it could be ancient spirits then in

977
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:36,720
that case

978
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:39,760
definitely people go back to the stone

979
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:40,720
age

980
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:49,190
i think you love that when you see him

981
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:51,280
and start saying now pout for me

982
00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:55,040
now act sexy now you're a cat growl

983
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:58,880
wow you know yeah have fun with it if

984
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,400
you ever see it again try to

985
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:02,720
just laugh at have fun with it excuse me

986
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:03,599
yeah

987
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,800
i will try that because you know

988
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,319
ignore other people in the live chat

989
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:10,240
have mentioned signals under you're

990
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:12,720
putting a protective signal under your

991
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:19,109
like a beautiful dream catcher i bought

992
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:22,319
from um like a native american

993
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,160
um lakota woman and um

994
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,800
i've i had that in my other bedroom so i

995
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:30,800
might actually move that into my main

996
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:32,319
bedroom and

997
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:38,069
yeah and uh i guess other people have

998
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,839
mentioned that

999
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:42,079
you know i i mentioned priests or

1000
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:43,839
ministers other people in the live chat

1001
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:44,480
mentioned

1002
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:47,440
calling the name of jesus but i think

1003
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,640
that you would have to believe

1004
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,319
in jesus like you'd have to be a

1005
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:52,480
christian for that to work right you'd

1006
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:53,119
have to have the

1007
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,480
faith in it i've gotten scared of just

1008
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:58,400
you know being scared and i have called

1009
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,079
out thor's name because thor's the

1010
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:02,079
protector of mankind

1011
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,359
and i felt better and when you think um

1012
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:07,280
for me the gods are all symbolism so

1013
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:09,760
author to me translates to the archangel

1014
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:10,240
michael

1015
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:13,520
in christianity they both have contained

1016
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,560
well they're both supposed to be

1017
00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:16,880
protectors of mankind so

1018
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:19,040
one has wings and a sword and the other

1019
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:21,440
one's a viking do with a giant hammer

1020
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:24,400
yeah yeah i always thought that was a

1021
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:25,440
weird weapon

1022
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:28,800
i'm just going to hit people with this

1023
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:29,920
big ass hammer

1024
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:33,359
right have you been hit with a hammer no

1025
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:36,720
no only my thumb

1026
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:40,240
only my own thumbs i'm so happy

1027
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:43,280
because at the cabin i uh i i learned

1028
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:44,880
how to use an air compressor and nail

1029
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:47,119
guns and stuff so i'll never swing

1030
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,880
i will never swing a hammer again it's

1031
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:50,560
so much better having an air compressor

1032
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,839
and nail guns

1033
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:53,280
but you got to be careful that you don't

1034
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:55,920
you know more near that

1035
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:59,520
you know he throws it it comes back

1036
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:01,119
you know yeah that's interesting and

1037
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:03,760
it's got lightning in it and stuff too

1038
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:06,079
yeah you could call lightning with it

1039
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:07,520
you know

1040
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:09,440
jonah said there was some movie i can't

1041
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:10,880
remember the name of it but i watched it

1042
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:13,520
on either netflix or

1043
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:15,280
amazon prime and it was about some

1044
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:16,720
descendant of thor

1045
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:18,560
and then they found thor's hammer at the

1046
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:19,839
end

1047
00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:22,960
oh i know they didn't know

1048
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:25,040
there's a tv series on netflix about

1049
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:27,200
that i forget what it's called

1050
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:29,280
yeah that's interesting maybe valhalla

1051
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,240
or something like that

1052
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,920
yeah yeah well yes i think i know what

1053
00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:33,599
you're talking about yeah

1054
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:35,920
so if anybody in the live chat has any

1055
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:37,839
questions for our guests about shadow

1056
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:39,680
people or anything else

1057
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:42,160
uh please put them in all caps we'll

1058
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:44,079
give some attention to the live chat

1059
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:46,560
and maybe call this one a quick one

1060
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:47,599
today

1061
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:56,470
i i don't laugh i gotta do this looking

1062
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:57,280
good

1063
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:59,520
it's looking yeah i gotta do this i

1064
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:01,119
can't wait i can't wait to finish this

1065
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:02,640
for my wife because she's right she

1066
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:04,560
wanted me to finish the kitchen before i

1067
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:05,440
started this

1068
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:07,520
extra room but i thought we needed the

1069
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:08,960
room more than we needed

1070
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:11,119
finished ceilings in the kitchen but i

1071
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:13,119
hate looking at that like

1072
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:16,160
unfinished ceiling you know so

1073
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:17,599
but i have to do this a little bit at a

1074
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:19,119
time because these boards are so

1075
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:21,119
expensive now it's like twelve dollars

1076
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:23,839
for one board

1077
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,680
it's this tongue and groove white pine

1078
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:27,440
it's so expensive so i'll just

1079
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:30,560
you know buy uh 20 or 25

1080
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:32,960
boards a week until a couple weeks it'll

1081
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:34,079
be done

1082
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:40,870
john bridgeberger says just a quickie

1083
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:41,760
today guys

1084
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:47,280
yeah quickies are never good

1085
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:50,160
they are what they are yeah bgs i asked

1086
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:51,760
my wife last week i said

1087
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,440
hey honey do you want to have a quickie

1088
00:46:03,990 --> 00:45:55,359
and you know what she said she said

1089
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:06,309
when they're young you don't get like

1090
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:07,440
private time

1091
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:10,960
but no as i was saying um my mom

1092
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:13,760
grew up and she wasn't ever part of

1093
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:15,520
church because of all

1094
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:18,640
the strange kind of click crap so every

1095
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:20,160
sunday my mom would sit me and my

1096
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:21,599
sisters down

1097
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,960
and we would discuss the bible and read

1098
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:27,040
one night we were one morning we were

1099
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,480
talking about some interesting stuff and

1100
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:30,480
i can't really remember what it was

1101
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,920
but all of a sudden the whole window is

1102
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:35,440
blocked out by this

1103
00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:38,560
black thing shadow and it

1104
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:41,680
was two feet by three feet window

1105
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,560
completely covered with this black thing

1106
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:46,319
my mom reaches the window

1107
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:48,319
it's gone and it's moved across another

1108
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:49,520
window

1109
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:52,960
so it literally moved around our house

1110
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:55,520
and she's like yeah and that was really

1111
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:56,400
creepy

1112
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:59,760
my sisters are like they kind of they're

1113
00:47:02,309 --> 00:47:00,319
like oh

1114
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:02,319
that didn't really happen i'm like we

1115
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:06,560
saw it happen guys we're all three there

1116
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:09,920
we were in egypt yes and my other friend

1117
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:14,319
someone said about how do you prove it

1118
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:17,359
usually you have to experience it with

1119
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:17,680
me

1120
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:21,040
him in

1121
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:24,800
riverside um the group of people that i

1122
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:25,440
had in

1123
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:28,480
the room with the demon thing

1124
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:31,440
and casey has always followed me and

1125
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,960
followed my daughter

1126
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:34,960
my son doesn't really feel him as much i

1127
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:37,760
think he's more of a guardian for women

1128
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:44,790
very funnies but yeah he's not here

1129
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:47,200
yes i know sebastian can't be that's

1130
00:47:50,829 --> 00:47:48,960
funny because i've heard a lot of people

1131
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:50,839
talk about having some kind of guardian

1132
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:52,000
spirit

1133
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:54,880
that uh is an ancestor of theirs or or

1134
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:56,559
something like that

1135
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:03,190
you think about it you know paganism's

1136
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,880
ancestor worship you're worshiping your

1137
00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:07,040
ancestors

1138
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:14,230
yeah so any more questions for any of

1139
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,040
our

1140
00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:18,079
panel guests tonight please do put them

1141
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:18,319
in

1142
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:21,200
all caps otherwise i guess we can wrap

1143
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:22,079
things up here

1144
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:24,800
because i'm not sure what else to ask

1145
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,280
except

1146
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,200
yeah i was like start trying to

1147
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:29,280
videotape that stuff and we'll put it on

1148
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:30,640
here or

1149
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:32,319
sort of like talk like because you've

1150
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:34,800
got there is no proof as such and it's

1151
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:37,040
only the experience that you can share

1152
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:37,839
and

1153
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:41,440
um yeah but like i'm sure we're not

1154
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,559
alone i'm sure there's

1155
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,240
heaps of people that sort of have this

1156
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,559
type of thing happen it's just

1157
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,400
it you know you wonder is it your

1158
00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:50,640
imagination is it your

1159
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,599
you know is it is it a figment that

1160
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:55,520
you're making up or

1161
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,760
you know or are you projecting michelle

1162
00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:00,000
am i projecting it absolutely

1163
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,680
there's so many things you can think

1164
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:03,119
about to try and

1165
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:05,920
explain it away and yeah a lot of people

1166
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:07,119
think that poltergeist

1167
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:10,160
poltergeist phenomenon is actually uh

1168
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,040
someone in the household that is sort of

1169
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:15,200
manifesting their psychic abilities

1170
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,800
and and they're out of control and they

1171
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:18,240
haven't really figured out how to

1172
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:19,680
control them so

1173
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:22,000
all this stuff like moving chairs and

1174
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:23,040
banging and

1175
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:25,760
and things flying across the room could

1176
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:27,760
be projected by someone in the house so

1177
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:28,319
it's not

1178
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:31,440
necessarily a ghost it's more like a

1179
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:33,680
oh yeah you know a psychic projection

1180
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:35,359
that they're creating

1181
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:39,119
going on yeah you might feel like that

1182
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:45,270
now what about you jonas when you saw

1183
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,559
these things i i

1184
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:48,079
i don't understand you were just kind of

1185
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:49,760
nonchalant about it like well they

1186
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,040
didn't strike me as evil

1187
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:54,240
so we just kind of you know going

1188
00:49:57,750 --> 00:49:55,680
upstairs

1189
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:57,760
that's the vibe i got i just saw like

1190
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:59,040
the to me the

1191
00:50:02,230 --> 00:50:00,400
with the shadow people they were

1192
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:02,240
traveling to me they were just coming

1193
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,520
through it wasn't like they were

1194
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:05,200
haunting us they weren't

1195
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:07,119
maybe they're just watching us i don't

1196
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:09,760
know i didn't get a bad feeling from

1197
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:10,800
them

1198
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:12,160
you know my roommates from some of my

1199
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,760
roommates were freaked out by it but i

1200
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:15,119
wasn't and i kind of calmed

1201
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:16,480
them down i'm like i'm not freaked out

1202
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:18,160
i've always been to the occult and into

1203
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:19,839
magic and stuff

1204
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:22,480
you know i've read tons of stuff you

1205
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:23,599
know and i'm like it's just

1206
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,760
not the thing that scares me when i had

1207
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:27,440
the night hang experience

1208
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:29,040
that freaked me out that scared me

1209
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:30,319
because i didn't know what was going on

1210
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:31,200
at first

1211
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,880
i just do it felt to me like something

1212
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:34,720
was feeding off my energy

1213
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:36,640
i'm not food you're not gonna feed off

1214
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:38,000
me so

1215
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:40,160
i had to figure something out and it i

1216
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:42,160
don't know what i did but it worked

1217
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:45,280
you know and uh like i tell people uh

1218
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:47,200
i've got i've set up wards around my

1219
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:48,559
house

1220
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:50,720
i just shipped i use a simple just a

1221
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:51,599
pentagram

1222
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,599
i put rubber bands on it whenever a band

1223
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,440
breaks we replace it and i just put a

1224
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:57,280
little energy into it

1225
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:03,990
yeah yeah whenever we go bigger red

1226
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,390
brad gray is here complaining in the

1227
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:10,400
live chat if someone you like tells a

1228
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:11,920
story about shadow people

1229
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:15,119
you listen but uh if corey

1230
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:16,880
if cg i guess he's saying corey good

1231
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:19,040
said the same story you would call bs

1232
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,559
uh absolutely none of these people i

1233
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:22,480
agree none of these people here

1234
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:24,720
are trying to sell you anything brad

1235
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:25,920
gray they're just sharing their

1236
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:27,040
experience

1237
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:29,200
so to me wait there's no difference

1238
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:30,559
between

1239
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:34,079
no yeah oh man did you check your

1240
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:37,280
paypal yet no i did not actually

1241
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:39,359
uh well we can do that though but you

1242
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:41,119
know listen i'm sorry brad gray these

1243
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:41,359
are

1244
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:43,920
these this is experiencers much like the

1245
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:45,440
only abduction people

1246
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,640
i i can't it is what it is

1247
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:50,559
this is my experience i'm just sharing

1248
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,280
my experience is it [\h__\h]

1249
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:55,119
i don't think so but you can think that

1250
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:57,040
that's fine doesn't bother me

1251
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:58,559
and honestly i think there's a big

1252
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:01,359
difference between seeing a dark shadowy

1253
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,319
spirit or telling everybody that you

1254
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,839
time traveled

1255
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:07,440
i said eight foot alien on my drop

1256
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:10,400
ceiling yeah you fought reptilian aliens

1257
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:12,240
in space but you can't handle twitter

1258
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:14,240
comments

1259
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,200
you could be on twitter yeah i just

1260
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:18,960
think there's a big difference between

1261
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:21,119
between corey good for five years

1262
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,720
telling all these fantastical stories

1263
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:24,480
and somebody telling it

1264
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,400
to me what appears to be a much more

1265
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,640
genuine and personal experience

1266
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:30,319
that yeah maybe they can't prove it but

1267
00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:32,800
they're telling us about the experience

1268
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,480
and a lot like alien abduction

1269
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:36,160
phenomenon

1270
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:39,280
the experience is what they have you

1271
00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:40,800
know

1272
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:42,400
i always look to where if someone's

1273
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:50,710
yeah well corey said he just had the 20

1274
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:52,640
and back oh i had 20 and back and i did

1275
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:53,119
this

1276
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:55,520
and then he disappeared he might

1277
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,119
actually people might go well maybe he

1278
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:59,200
was telling the truth but he kept piling

1279
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,400
it on and on

1280
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,720
no yeah then he needed more material so

1281
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,800
then he did another 20 and back and

1282
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:06,640
remembered everything that he had

1283
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:09,760
and he did another 20 in back so

1284
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:11,680
he's been battling aliens in space for

1285
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:15,359
60 years according to him and he's

1286
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:18,400
and then enoch

1287
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:20,640
the hollow earth but not the flat hollow

1288
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:22,720
earth just the regular hollow earth

1289
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:24,400
you know yeah i know i just think

1290
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:26,880
there's a there's a massive difference

1291
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:30,000
between uh between people telling an

1292
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:31,680
experience about seeing a

1293
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:34,800
dark shadowy spirit and somebody

1294
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:37,599
going that far with the [\h__\h] it's

1295
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:37,920
just

1296
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:40,160
and always profit there's always gotta

1297
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:42,000
you gotta have some money there's

1298
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:43,839
always got to be a money aspect to that

1299
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:45,839
guy

1300
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:48,160
and you know i think he's got a really

1301
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:50,000
good comment there saying and that's why

1302
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:52,720
we don't speak of these things because

1303
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:56,160
like you get judged and yeah you know

1304
00:54:00,870 --> 00:53:59,280
like yeah yeah you just sort of

1305
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,880
um well i'd like to think that this is

1306
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,640
something that i've ever shared before

1307
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,319
so you know when you were talking about

1308
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,920
it has anyone had any experience i'm

1309
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:07,200
like yeah i have

1310
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:09,280
but like it's not yeah and i'm glad that

1311
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,480
you came on and told

1312
00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:12,319
i'm glad that you came out not like i'm

1313
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:13,760
telling everyone about it because they

1314
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,200
think i'm [\h__\h] nuts

1315
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:17,040
they're that's well i already thought

1316
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:18,319
that

1317
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:21,599
before this so yeah yeah and

1318
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:24,000
and the whole thing is too is is you

1319
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,359
know uh

1320
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:27,680
these experiences are very personal and

1321
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:29,119
it's not like you

1322
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,280
you're out there hitting a conference

1323
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,119
circuit trying to get paid it's

1324
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:35,040
you know there's it's just apples and

1325
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:37,359
oranges and by the way

1326
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:38,880
i'm probably going to be covering it but

1327
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:41,440
i just did did a quick look in on mr

1328
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:41,920
good and

1329
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:45,920
and i found out that like the let's see

1330
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:47,520
there's this thing called starseed

1331
00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:49,680
adventures and the whole gang is all

1332
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:51,200
back together

1333
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:54,319
but they cut out corey good and then

1334
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,960
and then i checked in with edge of

1335
00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:58,799
wonder and they're making a new

1336
00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:01,760
docu-series drama and all the gang is

1337
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:02,559
there

1338
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:04,319
except for corey good they've got

1339
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:06,400
wilcock they've got

1340
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:10,400
jordan sather all of the you know uh

1341
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:13,200
eisenhower all of the usual people that

1342
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:13,520
would

1343
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:16,319
all riff well then one gets sued you

1344
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,480
know

1345
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:20,640
you didn't include me i'm gonna sue you

1346
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:21,599
now

1347
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:23,920
yeah he's getting cut out of everything

1348
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:25,599
lately he's gonna run his own thing

1349
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,079
though

1350
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:28,559
so we'll see how that goes but lately

1351
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:29,359
judging

1352
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:34,640
almost like somebody shut off the bots

1353
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:37,440
because it his twitter engagement has

1354
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:38,799
gone down to nothing

1355
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:41,520
in the past few weeks and that's

1356
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:42,160
interesting

1357
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:45,280
why did he used to get money yeah why

1358
00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:47,280
did he used to get 50 comments per tweet

1359
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,079
and now he's getting

1360
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:50,000
one or two and it's from haters

1361
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:52,559
sometimes

1362
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:56,559
which is funny i can't see david wilcox

1363
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:58,160
tweets because he blocked me because he

1364
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:59,760
doesn't want to grow a mustache which is

1365
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:01,200
what he's probably been doing this

1366
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:02,400
entire time

1367
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,960
for two months probably taking him 50

1368
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,960
years oh no he's having a contest now

1369
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:08,319
and whoever comes up with the most

1370
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:13,599
ridiculous i'd put in

1371
00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:27,030
maybe he's found the box and he's

1372
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:31,280
enjoyed it too much yeah

1373
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:32,799
he's kind of ridiculous too because i

1374
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:34,799
think i heard c.w chandler talking

1375
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:36,240
earlier i was listening while i was

1376
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:38,079
working and like

1377
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,720
the whole ridiculousness of like oh i

1378
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,559
needed to take some time off

1379
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:45,359
for self-care no you [\h__\h] you've been

1380
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:46,160
talking about

1381
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,920
the letter of the alphabet and trump

1382
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:49,920
[\h__\h] for four years

1383
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:51,599
and now it's pretty clear that that [\h__\h]

1384
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:53,599
was all fake and now you gotta go away

1385
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:58,470
every six months he's like oh i had to

1386
00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:00,079
take some time off you guys just don't

1387
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:02,559
understand how stressful this is

1388
00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:04,079
you know i gotta take time up and then

1389
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:05,440
six months there he takes another time

1390
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:06,240
he goes to what

1391
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:09,040
that place in canada bath banned i

1392
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:13,440
forget what it's called up in canada

1393
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:16,799
you know yeah it's just you know he

1394
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,640
needs to write more [\h__\h] down

1395
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:20,240
that's what it's really hard to come up

1396
00:57:24,870 --> 00:57:22,160
with

1397
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:24,880
c dubs paranormal everyone's stream so

1398
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:33,430
think quickly in the chat i i'm don't

1399
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:35,599
i'm not offended in any way at all brad

1400
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:38,319
like i i'm a skeptic i'm as skeptic as

1401
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:39,520
all hell

1402
00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:42,240
um like please don't think i'm i'm upset

1403
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:44,079
by that no i i think it's healthy to

1404
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:44,720
question

1405
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:46,960
i'm not i i i think no yeah right grace

1406
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:48,640
yeah the friend of the show as well

1407
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:51,599
as these guests of mine so right now i

1408
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:55,359
didn't think that you were being nasty

1409
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:57,280
and it does deserve some explanation

1410
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:58,880
right it does make sense like why am i

1411
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:00,880
so harsh on all these grifters

1412
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,200
and i'm okay with this situation it's

1413
00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:05,040
because these people are not

1414
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:06,880
selling you anything they're sharing

1415
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:08,079
their experience

1416
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:09,599
and i've been looking into these shadow

1417
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:11,920
people and wanted to hear about it so

1418
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:14,160
instead of doing it privately we just

1419
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:15,359
did it on on

1420
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:18,319
on the show i'll start a i'll start a um

1421
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:20,559
a go fund me for a uh you know comic

1422
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,240
book you know based on you know

1423
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:24,880
stuff that you know oh and by the way i

1424
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:26,880
did check the paypal and very

1425
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:28,720
a kind thank you to genocide for sending

1426
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:31,280
me five dollars while he's a guest on my

1427
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:32,880
show that's a nice guy yeah

1428
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:35,359
i should be paying him a kind and

1429
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:37,839
generous paypal donation and you too can

1430
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:38,640
send me some

1431
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:41,680
cash out there in youtube land

1432
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:44,880
there's uh paypal and patreon donate

1433
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:46,799
links in the about section of our

1434
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:48,160
channel and

1435
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:50,960
i forgot did i looked to see the is what

1436
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:52,079
did you want to shout out you could

1437
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:53,680
shout it out yourself there

1438
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:56,799
genocide um

1439
00:59:04,710 --> 00:58:58,799
nothing i just want to support the show

1440
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:04,720
you know by help help you get some wood

1441
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:07,119
yeah i do i ask my wife i definitely

1442
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:09,200
need some wood

1443
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:11,359
i would also like to i would also just

1444
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:12,640
like to shout out

1445
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:15,200
um i'm really sorry uh there's a couple

1446
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:16,720
of deaths that have had just happened

1447
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,240
prince philip

1448
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:20,400
for anyone who's a royalist uh i think

1449
00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:21,599
that's really sad

1450
00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:24,559
but also i'd also like to mention dmx

1451
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:25,839
because like he

1452
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:30,000
formed my yeah like my teen years

1453
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:33,280
rough rider

1454
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:36,640
jam stuff like so it's so sad

1455
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:38,880
um that we just lost a good good rapper

1456
00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:40,720
there too so

1457
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:43,520
yeah and i i i was never a rap fan but i

1458
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:46,720
had a roommate named tyrone and tyrone

1459
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:47,520
blast

1460
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:51,520
was huge on dmx right at the first album

1461
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:54,319
like and he would blast that album and

1462
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:55,040
eventually

1463
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:58,240
i did learn to like it because i i hear

1464
01:00:01,510 --> 01:00:00,640
you know he used a lot of stuff that was

1465
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:01,520
religious

1466
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:03,440
you know he used a lot of like choirs in

1467
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:04,559
the background and

1468
01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:07,200
cellos and violins and he really was

1469
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:08,480
innovative

1470
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:10,559
in changing it from just being like

1471
01:00:14,630 --> 01:00:11,520
beats and

1472
01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:14,640
stupid synth noises to being like

1473
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:17,520
more orchestral and yeah i'm sad that

1474
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:18,240
he's gone too

1475
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:19,760
he's one of those guys that you kind of

1476
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:21,520
you didn't appreciate him and now he's

1477
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:22,559
gone and you go

1478
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,240
i should have appreciated him a little

1479
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:26,400
better you know god bless him and his

1480
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:27,200
family

1481
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:29,119
absolutely and all his friends and fans

1482
01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:30,799
that will certainly miss him

1483
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:33,280
and i'm selfish and i every time a

1484
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:35,040
songwriter a rapper dies

1485
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:37,760
i always think how many more amazing

1486
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:39,920
albums did that guy have in him that are

1487
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:42,480
going to be lost to history now you know

1488
01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:46,079
we'll never hear them that's sad

1489
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:49,119
i hope you wrestled rest well in peace

1490
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:50,160
dmx

1491
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:52,640
and as far as the prince i don't i never

1492
01:01:09,589 --> 01:00:53,680
i don't understand

1493
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:13,430
right yeah yeah i mean

1494
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:21,910
yeah it's it's it is it's a shame when

1495
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:24,000
but that guy lived a very privileged

1496
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:32,549
oh the context yeah yeah all right

1497
01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:35,599
somebody needs to buy daniel a watch

1498
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:38,000
he's in australia with pg's in that fake

1499
01:01:42,549 --> 01:01:39,920
country that's why they can't tell time

1500
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:42,559
because they live in a fake country not

1501
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:43,280
real

1502
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:48,240
though that's what's funny new zealand's

1503
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:48,960
real

1504
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:50,960
australia is not i can't believe that we

1505
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:52,720
have all these australian friends of the

1506
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:54,799
show and nobody has sent me any of those

1507
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:57,839
like five pound shrimps yet because i

1508
01:02:03,029 --> 01:01:59,839
would like that

1509
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:03,039
if i ever get to australia that's the

1510
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:03,760
first thing

1511
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:06,079
can we just can i just correct you

1512
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,599
they're not called shrimps they're

1513
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:09,520
called prawns

1514
01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:12,720
prawns prawns

1515
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:30,069
well we do in the united states

1516
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:31,589
like i'll throw another shrimp on the

1517
01:02:36,069 --> 01:02:34,640
bar before you because they americanized

1518
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:36,079
it for you idiots

1519
01:02:39,349 --> 01:02:38,480
you know what's funny bgs i there's a

1520
01:02:42,789 --> 01:02:39,359
video

1521
01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:42,799
of australian people eating uh outback

1522
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:46,880
what is it what is that steakhouse

1523
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:49,440
yeah we've killed them steakhouse that's

1524
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:50,079
supposed to be

1525
01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:52,480
australian food and they they fed it to

1526
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:53,839
australian people and they're like what

1527
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:54,960
the [\h__\h] is this

1528
01:02:58,870 --> 01:02:58,160
man i have a friend onion we ain't got

1529
01:03:01,190 --> 01:02:58,880
this [\h__\h]

1530
01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:01,200
here in australia what the [\h__\h] is these

1531
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:03,200
americans thinking

1532
01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:06,480
yeah yeah we took him to outback

1533
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:09,839
and he was just like this is not [\h__\h]

1534
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:12,240
italian i like to blow my onion and goes

1535
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:14,640
but i've never had one down there before

1536
01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,079
you know in nostril home you know i'm

1537
01:03:24,069 --> 01:03:21,990
yeah that was hilarious lee beltman says

1538
01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:24,079
grab me a fosters and put another shrimp

1539
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:25,760
on the barbecue all right that's not the

1540
01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:26,720
only thing

1541
01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:28,319
the only good that comes out of

1542
01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:30,559
australia is those huge shrimp

1543
01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:34,559
and fosters beer i used to be a big fan

1544
01:03:39,029 --> 01:03:37,599
oh i hate this beer nobody drinks

1545
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:39,039
foster's beer in australia

1546
01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:41,280
never have not even in the 80s see

1547
01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:43,520
that's more propaganda from your fake

1548
01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:44,160
country

1549
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:46,480
watching australian rules football and

1550
01:03:51,029 --> 01:03:48,960
seeing foster's advertisements on the in

1551
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:51,039
the back on billboards all the time

1552
01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:52,640
that doesn't mean that we were drinking

1553
01:03:59,829 --> 01:03:58,230
it's not that bad compared to american

1554
01:04:02,470 --> 01:03:59,839
beer have you had american beer

1555
01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:02,480
bgs not not like well you haven't had

1556
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:04,079
like a budweiser

1557
01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:08,799
or like a miller beer not we are raising

1558
01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:12,160
rainier we drink um i know a lot of

1559
01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:13,440
australians will drink

1560
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:15,760
coopers that's a south australian

1561
01:04:18,710 --> 01:04:16,559
company

1562
01:04:20,069 --> 01:04:18,720
which is like quite renowned in

1563
01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:20,079
australia

1564
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:22,319
um that's one of the good and then we've

1565
01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:23,839
got a lot of boutique

1566
01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:27,200
like um uh what do you call them

1567
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:30,000
um we call microbrews breweries like

1568
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:31,839
microbreweries yeah we've got a lot of

1569
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:33,280
them now so

1570
01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:34,960
yeah they they are they do make some

1571
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:37,039
good beers

1572
01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:40,799
oh sure they do bathrooms someday bgs

1573
01:04:44,230 --> 01:04:42,559
i'm gonna visit your fake country

1574
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:44,240
and i'll try that for you you're more

1575
01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:46,559
than welcome to stay at my house so

1576
01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:48,160
there you go yeah i'm sure my wife would

1577
01:04:50,390 --> 01:04:50,000
love that like i'll just go to australia

1578
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:50,400
and

1579
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:54,160
hang out with my show

1580
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:56,160
how about my kids that would be awesome

1581
01:05:02,230 --> 01:04:57,359
i hope you have

1582
01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:02,240
i hope you don't have a lot of things

1583
01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:03,599
they could break because

1584
01:05:07,270 --> 01:05:05,599
my kids are like a wrecking crew i have

1585
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:07,280
no nipples

1586
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:08,370
we're all good

1587
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:10,960
[Laughter]

1588
01:05:15,029 --> 01:05:13,440
well listen i want to thank each of you

1589
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:15,039
and uh your wife there

1590
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:18,240
renee miss genocide for uh for

1591
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:20,880
taking part in our panel discussion on

1592
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:23,119
the mysterious world of the shadow

1593
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:24,160
people

1594
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:27,039
i'm going to toss you guys out and then

1595
01:05:31,349 --> 01:05:28,559
we're going to wrap things up here

1596
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:31,359
but thanks speeches and thanks and renee

1597
01:05:35,910 --> 01:05:32,799
my special guests

1598
01:05:37,510 --> 01:05:35,920
thanks everybody you guys have a great

1599
01:05:40,789 --> 01:05:37,520
night i'm gonna throw you out of here

1600
01:05:47,829 --> 01:05:40,799
and do a quick wrap-up thank you

1601
01:05:55,029 --> 01:05:51,349
brad gray thanks uh so

1602
01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:55,039
listen i i'm gonna look deeper into this

1603
01:06:00,069 --> 01:05:58,160
shadow people phenomenon i've been

1604
01:06:01,910 --> 01:06:00,079
hearing from several people that have

1605
01:06:02,549 --> 01:06:01,920
experienced this thing and it has only

1606
01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:02,559
made me

1607
01:06:06,069 --> 01:06:05,440
more curious and and when i say more

1608
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:06,079
curious

1609
01:06:12,470 --> 01:06:11,280
or what are they what is their

1610
01:06:14,230 --> 01:06:12,480
intentions

1611
01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:14,240
in appearing to people what is their

1612
01:06:18,069 --> 01:06:16,000
purpose are they

1613
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:18,079
as some people believe some form of

1614
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:20,559
psychic vampire that feed off fear and

1615
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:23,280
people's anxiety and negative emotions

1616
01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:24,960
are they demons

1617
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:26,160
which would be the christian

1618
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:27,920
interpretation of these type of

1619
01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:29,599
phenomenon

1620
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:32,640
or are they something else

1621
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:36,720
and most specifically i want to know

1622
01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:38,880
what do they want why are they appearing

1623
01:06:42,950 --> 01:06:41,119
to people all over the world

1624
01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:42,960
it's an interesting phenomenon and we

1625
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:46,240
will continue to cover it here so

1626
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:49,440
friends uh until next time i want to

1627
01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:50,799
thank each and every one of you for

1628
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:52,240
being in the audience and i especially

1629
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:53,200
want to thank

1630
01:06:56,789 --> 01:06:54,400
because i always like when there's an

1631
01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:56,799
audience and we had a great one tonight

1632
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:58,559
thank you for being a part of it

1633
01:07:01,750 --> 01:07:00,480
i also want to be sure to thank our

1634
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:01,760
special guests tonight

1635
01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:05,200
friends of the show bg's renee

1636
01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:08,480
and jonasside uh

1637
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:14,079
one second

1638
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:16,640
so until we meet again friends until

1639
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:18,640
next time

1640
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:21,280
my name is stephen campion broadcasting

1641
01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:21,920
live

1642
01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:24,720
from the apocalypse cabin until next

1643
01:07:30,460 --> 01:07:25,520
time friends

1644
01:09:00,620 --> 01:08:21,440
[Music]